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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:07 pm 
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this is a 1978 DT175 that i have that was given to me.
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it came without a cylinder,carb and pipe,in fact there was a lot of missing parts and others were simply wrong for the bike.
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it did come with the key for the helmet lock and ignition.

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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:13 pm 
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check out the lawnmower style ignition wire someone grafted on.
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the nail for the oil tank swivel.
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the wrong brake panel and rear wheel,these have a 18" rear wheel and this came with a wrong 17" rear wheel.

here is the brake panel.
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the rear wheel.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:22 pm 
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the magneto looks good.
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the severely dry rotted front tire.
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i did a quickie repair to the front oil tank mount with a surplus grommet i had and was surprised it would fit,this is a 1968-71 214 style grommet for a RT1 360 or DT1 250.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:28 pm 
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this bike has been around.
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i hooked up a battery to do basic electrical checks.
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i checked the headlight bulb it came with and it is good,one less item to buy.
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as i dug into the bike i found the usual rigging,like this air cleaner.
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the RH side foot peg sheared off.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:36 pm 
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the engine has leaked oil out of every joint that was still there.
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i went ahead and removed the engine for it's rebuild and drained the oil left for teardown.
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removed the clutch cover.
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removed the flywheel and this stator.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:39 pm 
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the neutral switch wire must be disconnected when removing the stator on one of these.
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now to commence tear down.

here i am removing the clutch.
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with the clutch out of the way we can see what caused this engine to fail and the bike ended up originally parted out some.
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the shifting mechanism looks fine.
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here i removed the primary crankshaft gear.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:58 pm 
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i split the cases,i am replacing the main bearings in this engine due to all the dirt it ingested.
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amazingly enough the crankshaft is fine itself.
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exploded view of the engine parts,this is from Yamaha for the 1978 DT175.
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here is some pics of the new parts to assemble the lower end.
the seals,it came as a complete kit.
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gasket kit.
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the parts lot,also i got new main bearings.
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the bearings with the new wrist pin bearing in view.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:03 pm 
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now to install the crankshaft.
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i assembled the cases with Yamabond 5.

now to install the seals and gaskets,this is the clutch lever seal.
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new and old seals side by side for the clutch.
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to install this shifter part the transmission should be in neutral.then install this roll pin.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:08 pm 
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then this part of the shift drum,align the deep concave part with the stop.
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then install this stop and cir clip on the shift drum.
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these show the idler gear installed.
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the clutch pushrod due to the oil being low was fused together,the 2 rods and ball bearing are 3 separate parts normally.

i double nutted one of the shafts and separated them,it turned out to be a total loss with nothing that can be salvaged.
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i got new pushrods and a new ball bearing,here you can see the revision in this part
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:25 pm 
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first this push rod is to be installed with the pointy end towards the clutch actuator.
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followed by the ball bearing.
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then the last push rod.
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i measured the plates and they were all within spec,spec is 3.0 mm and these checked in at 2.9 at the thinnest point on all the plates.
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yes i did fold in the locking tab to the nut,i get caught up too much sometimes to take a pic of some things.

there is a specific way to assemble the clutch and was done according to this TSB from Yamaha.
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i marked the clutch hub to make this easier,you align the thinner top portion of the steel plates with these marks i made with red paint.
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then i assembled the clutch.i got new springs to use.

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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:52 pm 
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the end of the kickstart spring goes into this pocket in the cases.
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just like a 73-76 250 Elsinore there is a cast point on the case that aligns with the arrow point end of the clutch release lever.
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new gasket and the neutral indicator switch gets installed.
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reinstalled the clutch cover
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now it is ready for the top end installation.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:03 pm 
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now to turn to the frame.
first we got to address the sheared off foot peg mount.
i ground this to a flat area.
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i got a scrap DT1/RT1 foot peg and trimmed it to fit and mocked it up on the frame.
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then i welded the part on to the frame,because the mount on the frame is cast iron and the peg mount is mild steel i had to do this carefully.it requires lots of heat to weld and make it stick so i welded with the gas torch cranked up.
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once the welding was complete i started to strip off the parts to repaint the frame.i removed the brake lever to weld the upper part of the peg mount.
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the helmet lock gets taken apart and repainted and to polish the chrome back out.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:09 pm 
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now the main body has been repainted the assembly can go forward.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:19 pm 
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found a broken bolt to remove.
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i got as close to center and started the drilling.
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i worked up in size on the drill until the old bolt was super thin,the threads were almost exposed.
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then i got out the 8 mm x1.25 tap.
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and tapped out the hole,almost like new.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:25 pm 
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the best tool i had found to remove and reinstall the kick stand spring is a drum brake spring too.
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i then finished stripping the frame of more parts.
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(2) 1968 DT1 1970 RT1M,1970 DT1C 1971 RT1B Enduro 1974 MT250 1974 DT250A (2) 1975 DT400B 1974 DT100,1978 DT175
1975 CR250M1 1979 CR250R 1979 Kawasaki KZ400H1 Jesus is Lord!!


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