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Handlebar measurements for 1975 Elsinore CR125M / CR250M ???
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Author:  decooney [ Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Handlebar measurements for 1975 Elsinore CR125M / CR250M ???
Would like to request a favor - I'm a new VDBF member trying to put a bike together.

By chance does anyone here have an original 1975 Elsinore CR125M or CR250M with original handlebars that you could measure for me?

I had a CR125M in 1975 and don't recall the handle bars being that tall, but was recently told the stock rise is something like 5.0" on a stock bar (wow!), that's pretty tall. I'm restoring a bike and don't need an exact bar, but would like to get close with a current aftermarket handlebar from MSR or Moose who offer a CR-Hi bend that is 4.5" tall and that's close enough for me. I'm thinking a CR-Hi bend might just be the ticket but not sure what others here may have tried. Open to recommendations too...

If you have such a '75 CR bike and could measure the height and pullback, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Duane
Author:  rayivers [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Handlebar measurements for 1975 Elsinore CR125M / CR250M
Duane,

I'd be wary of using measurements for bar replacement, as apparently there are several different ways to measure handlebars. If you really want an OEM replacement bar, I would try to find real ones on eBay or contact a place like http://www.vintageiron.com that specializes in older bikes.

Here's the original bars - I did a quick relative measurement from the photo, and they seem to be about 6" rise:
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These look similar - notice how tall they are compared to modern bars:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MX-Hand ... 20bf3213a1

My MR came from the factory with one of the 5 different bars specified for the '74-'75 CR125M. I replaced the bent/cut up originals with Pro Taper SE 'ATV Mid' bars, with 150mm / 5.9" rise (supposedly). These bars weren't even close - when I rode standing up, I was looking down at the front fender - but I liked the pullback so I used 2" risers, and everything's fine now. I measure rise with the bars upside down on a flat surface with the grip sections flat, from the surface to the highest point on the center section. Using this method, the Pro Taper bars were a little less than 4.5"; perhaps Pro Taper rotates the bars to get an absolute-max height reading or something.

Hopefully some of this was actually helpful to you. :) If someone out there has found exact replacement CR125M bars or something really close, that would be great to know.

Ray
Author:  decooney [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Handlebar measurements for 1975 Elsinore CR125M / CR250M
Ray,
I'm starting to wonder if my bars are original then or off a later CR model then, looking at your photos.

They look exactly like the chrome example you sent, with grooved lines all the way across in the same manner - except mine are Black.

I was thinking the original have a split groove with a smooth section in between where the bars clamp on. I'm not sure now...
Author:  rayivers [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Handlebar measurements for 1975 Elsinore CR125M / CR250M
Duane.
Quote:
I was thinking the original have a split groove with a smooth section in between where the bars clamp on.

I'm almost certain this is true. I also seem to recall that my '74 CR's left/right knurled sections each consisted of two thinner lines of knurling, as shown in the parts diagram.

http://www.powersedge.com/pages/OemPart ... F24360001A

Here's some more photos - the top view from behind the seat shows bar detail pretty well when blown up:

http://www.vintagefactory.com/1975_hond ... sinore.htm

Ray
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